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EDIT – DIGG USERS: This was a guest post, and was not written by me. That’s my first point. Second point is that I do not host with Kiloserve, but with HostICan, and I’m on shared hosting… I never imagined how big this website would become, and am on a search for a decent VPS after you lot forced me with the numerous crashes to reconsider. As for the reason this, and a couple other posts went wild, there’s an Eastern European community that just stumbled across my website, and thought they’d surprise me by digging the posts… they did, but in an unsuspecting way
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Thanks for the traffic, let’s hope this doesn’t crash anymore times. Since you’re here, you might as well want to take part in my blog contest with $3,000 worth of prizes or even subscribe to the RSS feed through a reader or by email. Cheers!
Jason
No offence but it’s as simple as that.
I admire teenagers (including many of you) who do take the step into the on-line world, but Web Hosting is a business which you should attempt only if you are serious and only if you are not after a quick buck. Why? Because you will fail and drag your customers with you when this happens. Take a look at the Web Hosting Forum on DigitalPoint. 50% of those offering Web Hosting will be out of business in a couple of months. Out of the other 50% probably only a handful of them will survive after a year.
If you want to succeed in this industry then make sure you have the following:
- A Partner (at least one)
Two bodies (and two brains) are always better than one, especially when you need to support a 24/7 market. You will be competing in a world-wide market and, believe me, you can’t stay awake 24 hours a day. Providing answers to your customers and to potential customers in a timely manner, is crucial to your success. Ideally you will be able to cover for your partner and vice-versa. Make sure one of you can sell otherwise go get a job as a tech. - Capital for (at least) six months
Web Hosting is a cut-throat business. At the beginning margins are low and profits are slim. You need to allow some time to establish yourself in the industry. You probably won’t get customers from the first day so make sure you have the cash to keep you in business until you start winning those accounts. Try to calculate your break/even point (i.e. when your expenses will equal your income) to find out how much money you need to be making each month to keep you afloat. - Some knowledge of the Industry
You need to know at least the basics of the industry like what kind of hosting exists, what people are asking for in terms of plans and what are the industry prices. Lurk around forums like Webhostingtalk.com, DigitalPoint, Namepros, to find out what people are looking for in terms of packages and what sort prices your competition is selling at. Make sure you are competitive but also make sure that you will be making a profit. Otherwise you will be part of those who fail in this industry
- Technical knowledge (either you or your partner)
Most probably, if you don’t have the technical background, you won’t have the interest in this industry. In any case, you need to know a few things about the hardware and the software that you and your customers will be using. One of the most important aspects of this is being able to answer the questions of your potential customers. And when I say “you” I mean either you or your partner(s). Don’t be afraid to say “I don’t know – let me check that and get back to you” as long as you do just that. Obviously if you are selling VPS and you don’t know what a VPS is then you are not going to look credible. You also need to be able to choose wisely where you will be renting servers from (unless, like Kiloserve Web Hosting, you own the equipment and the data center
). - Manners and professionalism
If you can’t stop swearing at a customer (like Jason
) then don’t even bother getting into Web Hosting. You will be frustrated, angry and even infuriated but you need to be able to handle it. Your customer deserves what he paid for and even more if you are planning to keep him. Every now and then we see on forums chat or email extracts of angry customers complaining about their web hosts. This is very bad business which will ruin your precious reputation. - Patience
As I said earlier, you won’t be selling from the first day you go in business. You need to be patient and do everything you can to build your good reputation. If you provide a good service then people will come to you for more. Post offers on forums, do promotions, answer questions, contribute to the community and customers will eventually come.
- Great Support
After everything said above, this might seem as duplication but the truth is that excellent support will set you apart from the crowd. Everyone can offer hosting but not everyone can offer outstanding support. If you want to compete and survive then this is the way to go. If you try to compete (only) on price then you’ll be part of the 50% that goes out of business within a couple of months of starting your operations.
As you might have figured, the above is not a “get rich quick” recipe (I’ll leave that to Jason and his ebooks
) but a great starting point for a solid business.
I am not claiming to know everything about Web-Hosting but Kiloserve is established after just a few months of operations and is growing strongly. Feel free to email me any questions – I’d be glad to help in any way I can.
xpsave[AT]kiloserve[DOT]com
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Nice informative post, hopefully it will stop so many newbies crashing and burning!
I have experienced the same problem Jason. I started web hosting when I first came into the biz, and people were very happy with the service. The main problem was that I struggled to make money, so I had to sell the business — shame really!
Dan, that’s why I mentioned that you need to have capital to last you for a while. If customers are happy they’ll come back and refer to you others as well. But you need to be able to withstand the price pressure. When prices go down, everyone loses eventually even the customer since the companies need to make “discounts” on the quality of their service
Ah, well, this is one of those online businesses that you cannot easily penetrate without expertise.
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Your title explaining everything. Nothing to add.
I am into the web hosting market, and know much about the business, but I only provide hosting to the people that I know. There is no point for me to market my web hosting business since I would have to offer full-time support and hire people to provide support to clients. I would also have to buy / lease servers and would probably lose money for the first few months since it is almost impossible for a new web hosting business to attract a lot of people within just a few months. Plus, I am not a fan of overselling.
There are many teenagers who think that the web hosting market is a success. They are wrong. A teenager might be able to host 10 people, but when things go out of hand, like server problems and other issues, the teen will not be able to cope with the clients. A lot of teenagers are into overselling and providing people with false details, as everyone (mostly everyone) knows that a web host offering 200gb space and 2000gb bandwidth per month for $5-10 is bogus.
Reliable sources for this info? I just got into web hosting, and I need to know if I should jump ship now.
“as everyone (mostly everyone) knows that a web host offering 200gb space and 2000gb bandwidth per month for $5-10 is bogus.”
Isn’t this the norm for most of the big hosts out there? $6.95 a month?
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Ava,
There are millions of hosts out there, big and small. Probably about 90% of the small hosts fail after a few months due to the competition. The web hosting niche is very large, so you have to offer something extraordinary to your clients in order to succeed. The amount of time and effort needed in order to make your new web hosting company recognized is not worth it. You would have better luck investing in something else.
If you have capital, a team of technicians (or if you can provide support), and don’t mind a headache, then I suggest you go into the web hosting market.
The big hosts know that the majority of the people use under 1gb of space, and less than 10gb of bandwidth per month. It is just something to market by, and the big hosts know that the “big numbers” appeal to the potential hosters. If a user exceeds an allotted amount of diskspace, bandwidth, and cpu load, then the user’s account will be suspended.
If you want to offer web hosting to some people (those who will not need support), then go for it.
Thanks for your response. I appreciate your time. I bought a reseller package special on DP. It didn’t set me back much and it allows me to test the waters a bit, but I don’t want to sign up people and then the company go under. It celebrated a year in January.
Also…I just moved my blog to the hosting as well, and I don’t want to lose everything. I’ll be backing up my blog and running with it. I don’t have much to lose at all financially, so it’s a great opportunity to check it out. Thanks again, DJ.
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I totally agree with DJ. You have to be unique in your service.
Ava, if you do want to go into web hosting then make sure you differentiate yourself either by providing excellent support or through a unique concept or by providing hosting for a specific niche. E.g. specialize in Wordpress blogs hosting by offering:
1) 1-click WP installation
2) Theme, Widget, Plugin installation
3) Full blog management including upgrades
etc
You get the point – be unique as other people have said!
I hope this helps
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@ xpsave: That was totally my plan. Shhhh…don’t tell anyone.
@ everyone else: Thanks a lot guys for your helpful advice. It is much appreciated. Great post and wonderful tips!
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Jason doesn’t curse that much
lol
Anyway the bad thing about web host is that no matter how good it is there are some things that are not allowed.For example not many web hosts allow you to open a proxy site.You should get a different web host just for your proxy.This really sucks
Trevomanut, at Kiloserve.com we do offer proxy hosting as well as standard web hosting.
I agree that sometimes the two are difficult to combine and that’s because many webhosts oversell which is something that you cannot do when you offer proxy hosting.
So everything we offer is exactly what you get. We have quite a few customers on dedicated servers using most (if not all) of their 2TB bandwidth and we have some people on shared proxy hosting using most (if not all) of their 60GB bandwidth.
The key is to give to your customers AT LEAST what you have promised. Give less and you are out of the game. Give more and your success is a step closer
Nice Post. I think most people have trouble trusting a no name hosting company, especially when the prices are too good to be true. For now I stick with a name I know is established and I can trust, even if it costs a few extra dollars.
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Great post….plan and think about it before you get into web hosting so that you ensure you won’t “crash and burn.”
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I’m a “kid”
Better for a kid like me to do web design, and get clients that way.
You might also check out http://www.resellerguide.com – website about how to start and run and market your hosting company, lots of good stuff.
I’m thinking about jumping on the bandwagon. I pay fifty dollars to comcast for a dynamic IP and for twenty five dollars more I get a static IP and 15/15 bandwidth when verizon FIOS become available where I live. At this declining price for bandwidth, is hosting/services becoming a viable avenue for kids who want to have ‘more fun’ with the internet? My reasoning for shelling out the extra money is ‘ an extra $25 dollars a month, considering the speed increase, is worth it if it gives me the opportunity to make the money back’. Consider this, hosting/services is the contingency plan to the internet start-up. Don’t they go hand-in-hand, why not take your time in doing both?
@Victor:
Per the Verizon Terms of Service (Comcast has similar) you are not allowed to run any commercial services when subscribing to their consumer grade service (the TOS mentions that you may not use the service to host any type of server). Comcast or Verizon standard internet services may not be suitable for hosting, and would probably even get you banned from them. In fact with comcast, port 80 is blocked, making it impossible to host a web site.
For web hosting you would probably be better off to go with something more commercial grade than comcast or verizon.
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I think most indonesian web hosting never should read this post. Many of indonesian web hosting has a young founder, who even didn’t know how to set up an SSH account.. *arghh..
Really, they should read this..
I am 14 and I have been running hosting for 3 months now, its a nice little earner.
- http://crunchyhost.com
hi harry, are u anyway in affilated with crunchyroll.com?
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So… basically this is an advertisement for your hosting company, which doesn’t look any good since you were down after 100 diggs. i.e. looks like you can’t host a site either.
That’s not to say your article is full of shit, there’s some good general tips for anything related to making money in there, but still you seem like you’re just trying to promote your hosting company, while you’re ironically making it look bad.
By the way, according to your about page you’re also a “kid”, close to the same age as me in fact so that’s even more the reason you’re being obscenely ironic.
Always remember what happened to Interland!
Good article. But the last item (support) isn’t always necessary. I started a successful host (calico hosting) (with a partner, etc!) but instead of focusing on support to control churn, we built a reliable high availability chrooted system. While our competitors spend resources “supporting” problems (and offering unmetered service to bottom feeders,) we keep developing for the future and haven’t lost a client to date. We keep our client to server ratio under 30/1 and charge a little more… Sure, we’re not for everybody (e.g. if you need help with FTP and email etc. and don’t have a geek on staff, we aren’t for you,) but we’re happy with the slower growth. (we call it smarter) Otherwise, great article.
good info on webhosting.. we are co-locating a server in a datacenter as a VPS solution for our customers but we dont advertise it.. for the most part, it’s paying for itself.. but that’s not where we make our money.
another service that ive been interested in(and would love to see an article like this on) is what about game server & voice server hosting? i would think that market is also saturated.. maybe not as much as web hosting but its up there
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Defiantly true! But I’m 18 and running a webhosting site.
http://windowgate.cancerhost.com
http://www.crunchyhost.com/
“Firefox can’t find the server at http://www.crunchyhost.com.”
lol
Nice article and I thank everyone here. Well but to all, how can we forget Google and other Search engines. SEO can also help a lot to boost the sales.
I agree entirely. I made this stupid mistake, but I was lucky enough to be able to sell up
- DP has MASSIVE scammer problems like this :O
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I always wondered how the hostin business worked and what kinds of costs were associated with it. It looks like a great passive income business, but it does seem a bit prohibitive to start out. Still, I guess those are the same risks associated with any kind of business.
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great post.even though it is of months back but still holds true and that was a mistake i made 8 months back that is entering the hosting business though i made none of my clients suffer.
I’ve not yet had the inspiration to enter the hosting business. I have a full plate with creating websites for myself and clients and then doing consulting work on the side. It would make sense for me to get into hosting, but it’s just hard to find the motivation and more importantly the time!
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